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isaac
Level 3


USA
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Posted - 10/21/2007 :  14:39:17  Show Profile  Click to see isaac's MSN Messenger address Send isaac a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Amazing.



"Think of all the lives,
Saved by plastic knives."

Kasetta
Level 2



Italy
450 Posts

Posted - 10/22/2007 :  07:50:34  Show Profile  Visit Kasetta's Homepage  Send Kasetta an ICQ Message  Click to see Kasetta's MSN Messenger address Send Kasetta a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Magnificent!


memento gaudere semper

Daniele Caselli
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AndyB
Level 3



United Kingdom
646 Posts

Posted - 10/22/2007 :  08:41:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
OK, that was ludicrously good! Can't believe how clean the badminton racket juggling was!

And what an ending!



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AndyB: "The World's Most Average Juggler"
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pranay
Level 1



Germany
10 Posts

Posted - 10/22/2007 :  09:48:19  Show Profile  Visit pranay's Homepage  Send pranay an ICQ Message  Click to see pranay's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
That was soooo stunning!I started screaming after watching this!

peace
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eyesonly
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United Kingdom
367 Posts

Posted - 10/23/2007 :  12:54:31  Show Profile Send eyesonly a Private Message  Reply with Quote
now THAT's what I call juggling!!! Simply outstanding.

Richard
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coohandluke
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172 Posts

Posted - 10/23/2007 :  21:30:53  Show Profile  Send coohandluke an ICQ Message  Send coohandluke a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by isaac

Amazing.



"Think of all the lives,
Saved by plastic knives."




Wow, you weren't kidding! The badminton racquets remind me of where I practice; they're usually people there playing badminton, I think next time I'll run around and grab there racquets and start whipping them around .

______________________
Lucas
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SuchaMuggle
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265 Posts

Posted - 10/24/2007 :  19:56:59  Show Profile  Click to see SuchaMuggle's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
That amazing badminton racquet juggler's name is Jen Ping. His name is "Chian Jen Ping." I refuse to spell it with a Q as in "Qian" because
1. English does not use Qs without 'u's after.
2. If we did, we would still pronounce it "kian" in that case, which is wrong.
3. The original language is Chinese which has no Q OR U anyway, so why transliterate it so idiotically?
4. I know these guys, three brothers from Nanjing. Jen Wa is the ring spinner, and can do 3 on each arm, 4 on a mouthstick and 2 or more on one leg standing on Ping's head. Jen Wen is a ring juggling specialist. He performed 9 and sometimes 10 rings in their run at Big Apple Circus. He once told me he could do 7 rings for 10 minutes "no problem." Jen Ping, the racket guy, has done over 100 catches of 5 racquet backcrosses and over 50 catches of 7 racquets. He has also flashed 8 racquets.

The three brothers perform an 18 ring line perfectly every show with Ping collecting all the rings as finale.

John
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isaac
Level 3



USA
547 Posts

Posted - 10/24/2007 :  20:52:31  Show Profile  Click to see isaac's MSN Messenger address Send isaac a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SuchaMuggle

That amazing badminton racquet juggler's name is Jen Ping. His name is "Chian Jen Ping." I refuse to spell it with a Q as in "Qian" because
1. English does not use Qs without 'u's after.
2. If we did, we would still pronounce it "kian" in that case, which is wrong.
3. The original language is Chinese which has no Q OR U anyway, so why transliterate it so idiotically?
4. I know these guys, three brothers from Nanjing. Jen Wa is the ring spinner, and can do 3 on each arm, 4 on a mouthstick and 2 or more on one leg standing on Ping's head. Jen Wen is a ring juggling specialist. He performed 9 and sometimes 10 rings in their run at Big Apple Circus. He once told me he could do 7 rings for 10 minutes "no problem." Jen Ping, the racket guy, has done over 100 catches of 5 racquet backcrosses and over 50 catches of 7 racquets. He has also flashed 8 racquets.

The three brothers perform an 18 ring line perfectly every show with Ping collecting all the rings as finale.

John



Do you know how old they are today, John. Also, any idea where (if?) they are performing anywhere?
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anthonygatto
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USA
4280 Posts

Posted - 10/25/2007 :  09:29:48  Show Profile  Visit anthonygatto's Homepage Send anthonygatto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
What's more amazing is that some of you are just now discovering this artist.

A.G.

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JimboWizbo
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62 Posts

Posted - 10/25/2007 :  09:50:04  Show Profile  Click to see JimboWizbo's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Awesome video.

I just like juggling, Im not too up to date on who I should know about :/
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Dave Altman
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Georgia
621 Posts

Posted - 10/25/2007 :  10:04:33  Show Profile  Visit Dave Altman's Homepage Send Dave Altman a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by anthonygatto

What's more amazing is that some of you are just now discovering this artist.

I had a house guest that has been juggling for five years and she is pretty good, but I was surprised that she had never even seen a clip of Francis Brunn's before! I thought all young jugglers were watching every single video they can view on line, and were human sponge-bob square pants, but evidently, that isn't the case. Some do, some don't. I guess many of them just watch videos done by their friends and that's it, anything that is old or in black and white "forget about it."


"Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools talk because they have to say something." ~ Plato
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anthonygatto
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USA
4280 Posts

Posted - 10/25/2007 :  11:46:29  Show Profile  Visit anthonygatto's Homepage Send anthonygatto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:

I thought all young jugglers were watching every single video they can view on line, and were human sponge-bob square pants, but evidently, that isn't the case



Unfortunately not Dave. The youngsters like to talk as if they know everything and everyone there is to know about juggling. This delusional mind-set has really had a negative impact on juggling. How can one say who is great when they have never seen great? I spoke with a juggler in Europe(which surprised the hell out of me)and he had no idea who Francis Brunn was... and he called himself a juggler. It hit me then how ignorance has taken over the young people in the juggling world.

A.G.

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Nick Laffey
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294 Posts

Posted - 10/25/2007 :  12:46:06  Show Profile  Send Nick Laffey an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Another positive thread gone negative.

-Nick Laffey
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Dave Altman
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Georgia
621 Posts

Posted - 10/25/2007 :  13:04:10  Show Profile  Visit Dave Altman's Homepage Send Dave Altman a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by anthonygatto
...It hit me then how ignorance has taken over the young people in the juggling world.

Yeah, but the young have always been ignorant, it not just true of today's youth. Some are probably more arrogant and disrespectful than in the past, because of the behind-the-keyboard type of communication we enjoy and hate at the same time. A twelve year old feels free to "talk" to you as a peer, not even thinking that should deserve so much more respect than you normally receive on line, and not even having a clue about how much more knowledge and experience you have compared to them.

You not only got early training in juggling, but probably you got an early education in juggling history as well. Because of your tremendous talent shown at such an early age, the people wanted to or even felt obligated to share the juggling history with you. The rest of us didn't get that type of treatment

I would like your opinion on why Karl and Dick, and maybe others don't want to share historical footage? I'm not sure I understand their motivations. Dick has said in anger that the youth of today doesn't deserve to see it; and I don't understand why Karl doesn't keep 4,000 Years Of Juggling in print. I would love to get a copy, but it's near impossible to get one.

I totally understand you having them and not posting them on line out of respect and fulfilling your promise to Karl by not posting them, but why are the ones that have all of this juggling history hording it? I'm glad old movies are available so that people can see the work of the actors and directors that came before the present time. Imagine not being able to see movies of Jimmy Steward, James Cagey, Cary Grant, Errol Flynn, Humphrey Bogart, Betty Davis, Katherine Hepburn, Spencer Tracy and hundreds of other actors and actresses; and classic movies like Citizen Kane, Casablanca, Gone With The Wind, The Birth Of A Nation, or the Wizard Of Oz.

I think it only has improved acting and movie making by having the work of these actors and these movies available for study and enjoyment. Wouldn't having the work of the past master jugglers available do the same thing for juggling?


Sorry, Nick, sometimes that is just the way it goes. Hopefully, we can end the thread on a positive note. I'll try:

Happy...flowers...smile...hugs and kisses...cute baby...apple pie!


"Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools talk because they have to say something." ~ Plato
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philip_p1
Level 1



Spain
12 Posts

Posted - 10/25/2007 :  13:16:38  Show Profile Send philip_p1 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
wow that was mind blowing!!!!!!!
I havīnt posted or viewed anything on this forum for a long time cos I donīt usually get around to it, but im really happy I just stumbled on to that video! Thanks. That was world class.
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anthonygatto
Forum Admin



USA
4280 Posts

Posted - 10/25/2007 :  18:44:03  Show Profile  Visit anthonygatto's Homepage Send anthonygatto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
To Answer your questions Dave, certain footage he is the sole owner of i.e. Rastelli. He has the rights to it and that was done through the family. What you see on the net is bootleg. As for the other footage, it really is just his choice not to release. I think it's a sort of what-for attitude. I have not prodded him about it, as I just respect his decision on the matter. He told me if I meet someone that would truly appreciate the videos and not disrespect his wishes then I could feel free to make a copy for them. I have copied these videos about 6 times in the last 12 years or so that I have owned them. He has given copies out to others and of course those are floating around all over the place. I felt it a serious issue to respect Karl so I have. In a way, I would like these videos to be public but not on the net. It should be seen in a manner that can do them justice. Perhaps a juggling documentary DVD. The problem I am having, is that they are mostly on VHS(remember those thingies). I have transfered most of the to mini DV but haven't had time to render everything to DVD yet. One day I will.

A.G.

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